Tanglu Beta2 now available!

While writing this post, I recognize that we might need a news-blog for tanglu logo pureTanglu :-)

Since yesterday, we have an (installable!) Beta2 release of Tanglu!

Compared to the previous snapshot, it comes with a huge amount of improvements and bugfixes:

  • The systemd journal is now used for logging exclusively. You can install rsyslog to get the old behaviour back, and switch the journal to non-persistent mode. If you want to test the journal, type “journalctl -b” to get all messages from last boot. If we experience issues, we might revert to rsyslog for the final release.
  • KDE received a new theming for KDM/KSplash, so we can now show a face-browser in KDM, which is considered more user-friendly. User faces are now loaded from the user’s settings, instead of system directories by default. If you want to load a large user list (> 100) over network, you might not want this, but in that case you can easily revert the change.
  • Tanglu does no longer include an MTA by default. If you want one, install one and configure it. On desktop systems, having an MTA makes no sense, especially when it is not properly configured (we follow Ubuntu/Fedora here).
  • We ship with a functional live-installer now! You can install Tanglu easily to try it out. Unfortunately, the Debian installer is still not working, so you will have to boot into the live session to install Tanglu.
  • GNOME is now working. GDM and g-s-d will no longer crash, and Mutter is able to utilize llvmpipe for rendering in a virtual machine. The Shell and various other GNOME parts were updated to GNOME 3.10
  • We now ship the 1.14 version of Xorg now
  • Linux 3.12 is now default

Known issues:

  • People with ATi graphics cards might have trouble with installing the proprietary fglrx driver
  • In some very rare cases, the live-cd won’t auto-login. In that case, just reboot and try again, or use the password “live” to access the account.
  • Some packages are not installable, there is a list compiled here, with detailed info why they are broken (they will be removed from the release if they are not fixed) Some transitions are still pending (causes broken/not-coinstallable packages)
  • Users with a non-English locale will have an additional “Public” folder in their home-directory on KDE
  • We don’t support UEFI at time, please use the legacy mode to boot
  • We just noticed that the GNOME images won’t start the GNOME-Session for some reason. [UPDATE:21.01]: We published new live-cd images which have this issue fixed.

You can download the release from one of these mirrors:

Mirror1Mirror2Mirror3

Additionally, there is now a release schedule for Tanglu Aequorea, and we will do a vote on the name for the next release soon (proposed names).

As a note to Debian: systemd is working pretty well for Tanglu so far ;-)

I am pretty happy with this Beta2 release, because Tanglu is shaping out to be the distribution we imagined in the beginning.

Have fun! And as bonus, here are some images from Beta2:

tanglu-beta2-kde0

tanglu-beta2-kde1 tanglu-beta2-kde2

 

 

 

 

tanglu-beta2-gnome2tanglu-beta2-gnome1

 

 

 

 

 

 

29 Comments

  • Milozzy commented on 19. January 2014 Reply

    Thanks!!!
    Does the installer support UEFI? I created a live USB with dd, but it didn’t boot in UEFI mode… maybe I need to use another method like unetbootin?

    Thanks again, I tried the live system in legacy mode and it seems great!

    • Matthias commented on 19. January 2014 Reply

      Ah, yes! We don’t support UEFI yet, I ran into that issue by myself ^^ We need someone to implement that, and I don’t know if we will have it ready before the final release… Added it to known issues for now.
      Thanks for the heads up!

      • Milozzy commented on 19. January 2014 Reply

        Thanks for your reply!
        mmm bad news for me… well, I’ll wait!

        Thanks again!

  • Eneko commented on 19. January 2014 Reply

    Definitely will check it out!
    Where can I get started to contribute to the project! I am a web programmer so I could help with the website, also with the localization and documentation (I have three mother tongues).
    So keep up the good work! Can’t wait for the final release day!

  • Anonymous commented on 19. January 2014 Reply

    > The systemd journal is now used for logging exclusively.
    > Tanglu does no longer include an MTA by default. If you want one, install one and configure it. On desktop systems, having an MTA makes no sense

    Now if only we can get those two changes into Debian…

    • i5513 commented on 19. January 2014 Reply

      Are outputs of cron jobs logged into systemd journal or they are logged into /var/log/xx ?

      Thanks

  • Cameron commented on 20. January 2014 Reply

    This looks very cool! Good luck on getting a stable final release, I will try to test it a bit later this week or month :)

  • richbronson commented on 20. January 2014 Reply

    Two questions:

    1) How are updates handled in Tanglu? That is, if I install this release, what is the best way to get newer packages? Is it recommended to add Debian unstable, for instance, to get newer packages?

    2) Is GNOME installable at the moment? If the Debian installer is broken, and the live image won’t boot into GNOME…how do I get GNOME?

    Lastly, thanks for all the work. I’m stoked to download this and give it a try ASAP, and I think it’s a great concept for a project. I hope it works out.

    • Matthias commented on 20. January 2014 Reply

      You can try to take the GNOME immage, switch ttys and run “startx” as user “user” with password “live”. That might start GNOME. The live-installer for GNOME is working, I tried it :-)
      For 1): We will support everything on the KDE cd with updates for one month longer until the next release of Tanglu is out. That’s done because we are a small team, with less resources so far. But we might also update/fix other components, we just can’t promise it.
      You may try to use Debian Sid packages, they might work. Long-term, we want to integrate App-Installer systems to get new 3rd-party apps, but that’s a thing of the future.

  • Jon V commented on 20. January 2014 Reply

    Why release a distribution with so many breaks and messed up packages? It seems these days every one is out to beat the other and not looking at quality control – it is not a race. Why not try to produce a quality product before release instead of releasing a distribution just to release one?

    • Matthias commented on 20. January 2014 Reply

      It’s a beta release. Bete releases are designed to preview new features. The base-system and over 90% of the archive are installable, the rest will be fixed before we do the first RC release.

    • Alex commented on 20. January 2014 Reply

      In addition to being a beta release, this is a brand new distro. It takes time to iron these things out.

  • richbronson commented on 20. January 2014 Reply

    I’m trying to file a bug report, but the bug tracker hangs as I navigate through it. In the mean time:

    I cannot install tanglu-gnome-live-amd64.hybrid.iso. I’ve tried two methods:
    1) Using unetbootin 585-2 on Debian testing, booting the USB gives me an error: “Failed to load COM32 file: menu.c32″
    2) Using dd command on Debian testing, booting the USB gives me an error: “Isolinux.bin missing or corrupt”

    md5sum matches. Not sure what to do.

    • Somewhat Reticent commented on 24. February 2014 Reply

      Have you tried YUMI?

    • Somewhat Reticent commented on 28. April 2014 Reply

      … or the multibootusb project at sourceforge? Why waste usb drive storage, or plastic?

  • jeffreyC commented on 28. January 2014 Reply

    If only there was an Xfce version.

    Gnome 3 has jumped the shark, KDE is a huge resource hog.

    Xfce strikes a good balance of usability.

    • Somewhat Reticent commented on 25. February 2014 Reply

      KDE can be trained.

  • Robert Zelník commented on 10. February 2014 Reply

    Tanglu Beta2 is a great news! I’m just wondering, why don’t you add the link to Beta2 on “Get it” section of the Tanglu website.

  • Mich commented on 16. February 2014 Reply

    Just a heads up,

    missing md5sum and sha256sum files in Mirror 3
    as post #12 suggested, maybe a link in the “Get it” section of tanglu.org

  • Mich commented on 17. February 2014 Reply

    One question,

    is Tanglu’s default to work in su (as in Debian) or sudo (as in Ubuntu)?

    Really hope it’s like Debian :)

  • Milan commented on 23. March 2014 Reply

    I’m trying out Tanglu 1.0 and i like it very much. I have /home on separate partition.
    Of course, i would like to keep that data, but i’m not sure how to do that. There is no
    option (like for example in Ubuntu) to leave it unformatted.
    Thank you.

    • Somewhat Reticent commented on 27. March 2014 Reply

      Hi, Milan!
      I use completely separate partition(s) for data archive(s) [not /home or /msdos].
      For me, sometimes 32-bit and 64-bit /home(s) don’t get along.
      On a flash stick, only one partition is visible to some OS’s anyway.
      (Is there a root password when running “live”?)

      • Milan commented on 27. March 2014 Reply

        Choosed not to do full instalation. Didn’t want to risk the loss of data. I’m user who knows his way with basic things, this was a bit over my head :).

        For example, I have used Crunchbang for a long time (based on Debian Stable). Never had any doubts, installer is clear about partitioning. What installer Tanglu use?

        Anyway, tested it a bit with USB and later in Virtualbox, and i will say it again, i really like it. Hope this issues will be sorted out in future releases.

        I have a soft spot for GNOME, and with Tanglu it feels snappier than on other distributions (tried UbuntuGNOME, Fedora and few Arch based) and with all respect to them, they just didn’t feel comfortable. Thank you for your response.

    • Robert Zelník commented on 27. March 2014 Reply

      I can confirm this bug. I tried to install Tanglu on a disk with stored data. There were two partitions: one for root system and one for /home. I checked root partition to format as ext4 and /home to keep as it is (not to format). After installing the system and reboot, the data on /home was deleted.

  • Somewhat Reticent commented on 2. April 2014 Reply

    Haven’t you progressed up to Kde release version 1.0?
    Have you read the review on DistroWatch? (a PackageKit issue, and several compliments)

  • Pure Logic Edmonton commented on 3. April 2014 Reply

    Fabulous! Continue the good work. :-D

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